Not sure what you're talking about here. I have certainly never done
that.

That is because you live in the "free-state" of Florida and not the UK or
OZ. ;)

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Fun fact, there is a character in that game whose role is that of an evi right-wing antagonist trying to turn you into a radical. Can you imagine

that was quite funny actually. they made her hair purple because they assumed that people leaning right might associate that with something negative the sa way they do when they see left wing people with brightly colored hair.

Which game is this?
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On 25 Jan 2026, MIKE POWELL said the following...

Fun fact, there is a character in that game whose role is that of a right-wing antagonist trying to turn you into a radical. Can you im

that was quite funny actually. they made her hair purple because they as that people leaning right might associate that with something negative t way they do when they see left wing people with brightly colored hair.

Which game is this?

it was titled "Pathways"

apparently it went from removing her character and keeping the rest of the content as-is to completely shutting it down already

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Not sure what you're talking about here. I have certainly never done
that.

That is because you live in the "free-state" of Florida and not the UK
or OZ. ;)

Hahaha, you got that right! I get a kick out of seeing that on the
signs at the state border... ;-)




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Yes, If you buy alchhol or tobacco you have to show id.
So Trump is correct.
Trump always baits the left.

Groceries. He said Groceries.

A little nostalgia trip... back in the 1970s and 80s (and probably beyond)
if some of my extended relatives were going to buy "grocieries," those
might be the two products they were going to buy. Maybe not so much
alcohol but certainly tobacco.

Of course, that was back in the day when they could send me to the corner
store to buy a carton of unfiltered Camels and an ice cream treat for
myself. No ID required. ;)
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It makes lefties extremely upset when you point out the homeless drunks that walk around downtown in various cities have no problem getting a state ID to continue to do what they do. Yet somehow a sixteen year old kid with no intention of getting a drivers license is somehow incapable, heck even put through significant hardship in the course of getting an non-drivers-license state ID. Right.. So if these guys do just fine using their ID at the grocery store and gas station for boozin', why can't everyone else do it to vote?

I agree with your sentiment but, as an aside, depending on how your state
has implemented the "Real ID" procedures, they may have made it much more difficult for non-drivers to get an ID. Based on what they have done in Kentucky... removed the ability to issue IDs from every county clerk's
office, centralizing it in "regional offices"... I would estimate that
they have.

As I live in the capitol city, I have a regional office so I don't have
any experience to go on there.
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Yes, but... even he knows. He's just talking out of his ass, like he
often does, and like virtually all/any other politician does most of the time. They just can't seem to help it.

A true, red MAGA would jump in and correct you here... "He IsN'T a
POlitICIan, lEFty!"... while others might point out that he seems to talk
out of his ass a whole lot more than average.

I can remember when I thought that Obama used social media *way* too much
but, compared to now, I almost cannot remember him using it at all. ;)
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I agree with your sentiment but, as an aside, depending on how your
state has implemented the "Real ID" procedures, they may have made
it much more difficult for non-drivers to get an ID. Based on what
they have done in Kentucky... removed the ability to issue IDs from
every county clerk's office, centralizing it in "regional
offices"... I would estimate that they have.

in wisconsin you get your id and drivers license, etc at the dmv

That is good. With the exception of Louisville, and maybe Lexington, we
really don't have a "concept" of a DMV here. It was all done at county
clerk's offices.


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Trump also equated showing ID at the gas station, something I've never done. for showing an ID at the grocery store, I suppose he should have been clearer about showing ID at a grocery store when buying age-restricted items.

Gas stations are another place that people are apt to buy booze and, especially, cigarettes. The payment kiosks at the Kroger fuel depots here have a cashier surrounded by nothing but cigarettes. Snacks, etc., are in refrigerators and cabinets outside.

Yes, he could have been more specific. Who knows what he really meant (probably part of the point)?
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Yes, because at a gas station, you can also buy chewing tobacco, cigarettes, and alcohol (sometimes). Most definitely, he should have been more clearer (i he ever, though?), precisely because people like to take what he says and twi it into something completely different.

I think he likes being talked about. Saying things that can easily be
twisted makes sure that he is.

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On 28 Jan 2026, Nightfox said the following...

Re: Bbsing
By: MIKE POWELL to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed Jan 28 2026 08:29 am

Gas stations are another place that people are apt to buy booze and, especially, cigarettes. The payment kiosks at the Kroger fuel depots have a cashier surrounded by nothing but cigarettes. Snacks, etc., a refrigerators and cabinets outside.

Yes, he could have been more specific. Who knows what he really mean (probably part of the point)?

I remember when restaurants & other places in the 80s (and maybe early 90s?) often had vending machines with packs of cigarettes (and naturally they didn't need ID). Interesting times, those were..

yeah, i think the last one i saw was in a local dive bar. they already
verified you were 21 to enter so they were able to get away with it. afaik they removed it when they basically fumigated the place when smoking indoors in public places was banned.

was a pretty hefty machine too. built like one of those big steelcase desks. shame it's not really convenient to sell anything else in them cause they're kinda cool

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Re: Re: Bbsing
By: fusion to Nightfox on Wed Jan 28 2026 10:24 pm

I remember when restaurants & other places in the 80s (and maybe
early 90s?) often had vending machines with packs of cigarettes (and
naturally they didn't need ID). Interesting times, those were..

yeah, i think the last one i saw was in a local dive bar. they already verified you were 21 to enter so they were able to get away with it. afaik they removed it when they basically fumigated the place when smoking indoors in public places was banned.

Yes, I remember those, they had them at every gas station and restruant.
I remember eating out and there was "smoking" or "nonsmoking" area's.
I'm glad they banned smoking in public places, much nicer going to restraunts now.
They also had those big candybar vending machines.

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That is good. With the exception of Louisville, and maybe Lexington,
we really don't have a "concept" of a DMV here. It was all done at
county clerk's offices.

so do you have to drive out of the city to get drivers licenses?

I am not certain about first-time drivers getting permits but, yes, if you are going to get your license, you have to go to a regional office to get them, even if you are *not* getting the Real ID version.

In my case, there is a regional office in town, but only because this is
the capital and KYTC is headquartered here. For most other small
towns, they might have to drive a fair distance to find a regional office.

Initially when they introduced the Real ID in Kentucky, you could get it at your county clerk's office just like you always could with a license.
Issues arose, mostly because people don't like to follow directions and
were not bringing any additional forms of identification with them...
passport, birth certificates... that were required to get a Real ID.

Many smaller counties couldn't handle the pandemonium that was being caused
by the new Real ID rules so the state centralized licensing to the capital + regional offices.

I am guessing that states that already had a state-level DMV system didn't
run into the same issues.


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Re: Re: Bbsing
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jan 29 2026 11:16:55

I agree, it didn't really make a difference. I'd think they would have ventilated the smoking section and design it to pull the smoke out, but that wasn't the case. At least, I don't recall ever seeing a restaurant that did that.

Remember, those buildings had been around years, even decades, before the issue came up, and unless they were stand-alone buildings, they probably didn't even have the choice. And even if they did, they probably wouldn't. To redesign an entire ventilation system would've cost five-figures easily, which most independant eateries couldn't afford.

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On 29 Jan 2026, Mortar said the following...

Re: Re: Bbsing
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jan 29 2026 11:16:55

I agree, it didn't really make a difference. I'd think they would have ventilated the smoking section and design it to pull the smoke out, but wasn't the case. At least, I don't recall ever seeing a restaurant that that.

Remember, those buildings had been around years, even decades, before
the issue came up, and unless they were stand-alone buildings, they probably didn't even have the choice. And even if they did, they
probably wouldn't. To redesign an entire ventilation system would've
cost five-figures easily, which most independant eateries couldn't
afford.

yeah there was one bar in town here, maybe a couple years before the indoor smoking ban, that had a *fantastic* ventilation system just for that. some company designs equipment specifically to clear out cigarette smoke as fast as possible. the bar made a big stink (heh) about it.

but, most importantly, they started from a completely gutted building, so they didn't have to retrofit anything. didn't stay open long though.. a crummy bar is still a crummy bar ;)

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Yes, I remember people smoking in restaurants for sure, and there was
even a "smoking section" on airplanes. Ridiculous, since the smoke
spread throughout the plane anyway. Glad that's gone.

If you were in a big town in Kentucky, chances are that smoking area in
the restaurant was a small, enclosed area. In most other parts of
Kentucky, the non-smoking area was the small, enclosed area. ;)

I can remember it being that way up until they banned smoking in
restaurants statewide, sometime well into the 2000s.

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Re: Re: Bbsing
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Thu Jan 29 2026 16:05:08

Many smaller counties couldn't handle the pandemonium that was being caused by the new Real ID rules so the state centralized licensing
to the capital + regional offices.

i never got a real id. i guess you need one if you fly or visit a military base or a fed building.

I didn't, either, as I have a passport (although I need to renew it). IIRC, when it comes time to renew my license, I will still need to go to the regional office.

Mike
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Have you never bought Beer or cigarette's at a gas station?

No.

When I was of the age to start drinking, I am not certain that there were
many "filling stations" that sold alcohol yet. There was a Convenient
store nearby, but that one didn't have gas pumps. There were some
SuperAmerica stations that had stores, too.

IIRC just about all of them did sell cigarettes but, as I didn't smoke, I didn't buy any.

Nowadays, it would be odd if someone who drank beer never bought at such a place as just about all of the stations have some sort of small store
included.
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I agree, it didn't really make a difference. I'd think they would have ventilated the smoking section and design it to pull the smoke out, but that wasn't the case. At least, I don't recall ever seeing a restaurant that did that. But although that might have helped a bit, it might not have completel drawn all the smoke out anyway..

Here, in later years, some of the fast food places had sections that were "walled off" with plexiglass (??), usually off in a corner. That seemed
to help.

As I pointed out in another message, depending on where you were in the
state, it might turn out that the small, walled-off area was the
non-smoking section as so many people in those areas smoked.
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"A short PSA-like online browser game created by Shout Out UK (SOUK) in 2023. It gained notoriety in early 2026 when various media entities discovered it. The far-right extremist character, Amelia, quickly became the most popular of the characters in the game."

OK, that explains all fo the Amelia memes, etc., that appear on social
media. ;)
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