Hey CloudDancer!

On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 20:25:26 -0500, you wrote:

Does it hurt anything if I do not, and Netmail is available in all as an Area, (local included), not just message bases?

It might. For example (and maybe a wierd example, at that), you're reading Fidonet (which means you're currently IN group X), you may not see a new incoming netmail for Agoranet (group Y), because you're not currently IN that group. Once you join group Y, you might then finally see the netmail. Giving netmail access to every group specifically, allows this to act as a netmail area for each group, and also matches the node number of said group for replies, so you're not writing someone in Agoranet with your Fidonet address. Does that make sense?

Maybe this has something to do with you not thinking you're receiving netmail as soon as you think you should?

I also believe group defining like this example is mentioned in the whatsnew.txt.

I don't mind seeing it there under Local as well, if that isn't causing
any issues sending/receiving messages...

It may be an issue, because you don't actually have a node number assigned to your Local areas. If you try to respond to a netmail while you're in the Local conference, your node number will probably be set to 0:0/0, which would result in a failed netmail.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey CloudDancer!

On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 20:26:18 -0500, you wrote:

I wish I knew this sooner! ;) Would be nice to know what does / does not change, as some things sure update right away, but others really like a bounce.

I don't think anyone knows specifically what does and does not change without restarting. Which is why you're better off just restarting if after /any/ change in 'mystic -cfg'. Better safe, than sorry. There have been a couple people (including myself) that actually lost some of their FTN settings, ie. they just disappeared, after NOT restarting mis (or forgetting to).

Regards,
Nick

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Nick,

see the netmail. Giving netmail access to every group specifically,
allows this to act as a netmail area for each group, and also matches
the node number of said group for replies, so you're not writing someone in Agoranet with your Fidonet address. Does that make sense?

Yes. At the moment, however, whenever I reply to a netmail, Mystic (at least) ask me to confirm net/node I am sending to (and by default it matches the one netmail was received on). That's why I thought it should be ok.

Maybe this has something to do with you not thinking you're receiving netmail as soon as you think you should?

That's quite possible!

Thansk. I'll make changes.

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I wish I knew this sooner! ;) Would be nice to know what does / does not change, as some things sure update right away, but others really like a bounce.

I ALWAYS exit and restart. Only takes a moment.
Or exit the server and then run the config (if your BBS has constant traffic) then launch when the config is done ....

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SirRonmit,

I ALWAYS exit and restart. Only takes a moment.
Or exit the server and then run the config (if your BBS has constant traffic) then launch when the config is done ....

I will be doing the same now. I definitely noticed a lot of weirdness if not, so I won't be making that mistake again. Only thing I believe is 100% safe is editing prompts and ansi files. Changing menus seems to be OK too, but that's easy to test if it took or not - cuz the new option either works or not.

However, exiting and saving is probably best.

Also - one thing I did which is probably a nono - is I ran -cfg in terminal at the same time as running config via sysop menu when logged in ...

That's probably not the smartest idea.

Cheers,

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Hey CloudDancer!

On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 06:01:38 -0500, you wrote:

Yes. At the moment, however, whenever I reply to a netmail, Mystic (at least) ask me to confirm net/node I am sending to (and by default it
matches the one netmail was received on). That's why I thought it should
be ok.

It's also possible it's not necessary any more. I very well could be carrying over settings on mine from earlier alpha development when the FTN stuff was first being added.

That's quite possible!
Thansk. I'll make changes.

At the very least, it won't hurt anything, and might help in some areas I can't think of. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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On 28 Jan 2026, CloudDancer said the following...

I will be doing the same now. I definitely noticed a lot of weirdness if not, so I won't be making that mistake again. Only thing I believe is
100% safe is editing prompts and ansi files. Changing menus seems to be
OK too, but that's easy to test if it took or not - cuz the new option either works or not.

there are some other things you can get away with just fine as well

for example, theme strings are loaded when you log in (all the text for the prompts and stuff) but the command:

(GE) Edit user settings 14 /RELOAD

will reload them while you're still logged in so you can see your changes immediately. beats having to log in and out to see if your changes line up or are the right color ;)

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fusion,

(GE) Edit user settings 14 /RELOAD

Thanks!

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Nice to see another Buckeye here! I'll check out the board here in a little while!

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Scuz,

Nice to see another Buckeye here! I'll check out the board here in a little while!

Sweet!

You @

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I...O...!

Troy to be exact!

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