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testing beta version of px/wins
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testing internet rex and pxw config change.
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testing beta version of px/wins
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testing
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test
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testing posting via thunderbird and nntp
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testing posting via thunderbird and nntp
testing posting via thunderbird and nntp
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If this is a test regarding all of the headers that used to be posted in you
NNTP messages, then the test passed!
unfortunately, no it wasn't.
Hey Robert!wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 07:36:32 -0400, you
you were trying to do.unfortunately, no it wasn't.
Then, I suppose I didn't understand what
You said something in the lines of"testing Thunderbird and NNTP". Your
message didn't include all of thoseheaders. Maybe that only happens
when you reply to another message? Idon't know.
Regards,is illegal.
Nick
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Thank you, because I kept getting messages
from people saying they saw nntp headers in
the body of messages I post via newsreader.
Apparently some tossers filter that out in
import better than others
Thank you, because I kept getting messages
from people saying they saw nntp headers in
the body of messages I post via newsreader.
Apparently some tossers filter that out in
import better than others
FWIW, apparently both sbbsecho (synchronet) and hpt are filtering
them out.
Hey Mike!
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 09:04:56 -0500, you wrote:
> FWIW, apparently both sbbsecho (synchronet) and hpt are filtering
> them out.
Not sure about that, or I probably wouldn't have seen them in the first place (I use both of what you mention above here, and hpt hasn't been updated since 2024; nor did I change any settings).
Granted, maybe it only includes those headers in the message body when he replies (followup) to a message via NNTP, rather than just posting a new one.
Regards,
Nick
.. Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
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Hey Robert!
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 09:39:24 -0400, you wrote:
> Thank you, because I kept getting messages
> from people saying they saw nntp headers in
> the body of messages I post via newsreader.
I was one of them that saw those headers, and wrote to you about it.
> Apparently some tossers filter that out in
> import better than others
Are you sure you didn't adjust Thunderbird to NOT write headers to the message
body?
Were you using the "Reply" button, rather than "Follow-Up"?
I doubt it was a "some tossers" issue, as your last couple of tests via Thunderbird haven't had the headers in the bodies.
Hey Robert!
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 09:39:24 -0400, you wrote:
> Thank you, because I kept getting messages
> from people saying they saw nntp headers in
> the body of messages I post via newsreader.
I was one of them that saw those headers, and wrote to you about it.
> Apparently some tossers filter that out in
> import better than others
Are you sure you didn't adjust Thunderbird to NOT write headers to the message
body?
Were you using the "Reply" button, rather than "Follow-Up"?
I doubt it was a "some tossers" issue, as your last couple of tests via Thunderbird haven't had the headers in the bodies.
On 3/16/2026 10:57 AM, Nick Boel wrote:
Hey Mike!
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 09:04:56 -0500, you wrote:
> FWIW, apparently both sbbsecho (synchronet) and hpt are filtering
> them out.
Not sure about that, or I probably wouldn't have seen them in the
first place (I use both of what you mention above here, and hpt hasn't
been updated since
2024; nor did I change any settings).
Granted, maybe it only includes those headers in the message body when
he replies (followup) to a message via NNTP, rather than just posting
a new one.
Regards,
Nick
.. Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
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Let's try this one. I have ent santronicsa message regarding this.
They are pretty receptive to feedback After all, they are adding binkp
to their front end mailer product after all these years.
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This is how your message was received here (without one quote level, of course). Looks much better as far as quoting is concerned.
Was this done with Thunderbird? Or your BBS message editor?
Granted, maybe it only includes those headers in the message body when he replies (followup) to a message via NNTP, rather than just posting a new one.
This is how your message was received here (without one quote level, of course). Looks much better as far as quoting is concerned.
Was this done with Thunderbird? Or your BBS message editor?
This is how your message was
received here (without one quote
level, of course). Looks much
better as far as quoting is
concerned.
Was this done with Thunderbird? O
your BBS message editor?
This message was wriiten while logge
into my bbs. Wildcat! always
uses "->" when quoting.
... Life is short, eat dessert first
headers in the message body when heGranted, maybe it only includes those
rather than just posting a newreplies (followup) to a message via NNTP,
one.
That could be!
Mike
headers in the message body when heGranted, maybe it only includes those
rather than just posting a newreplies (followup) to a message via NNTP,
one.
That could be!
Mike
The good news is that I brought this to
Santronics' attention and they are going to
put the issue in a parallel bug fix for
px/wins and the wcqwk.exe qwk echomail
processor.
Can they also fix the "-> " quoting style? ;-)
Granted, maybe it only includes those headers in the message body when he replies (followup) to a message via NNTP, rather than just posting a new o
That could be!
The good news is that I brought this to
Santronics' attention and they are going to
put the issue in a parallel bug fix for
px/wins and the wcqwk.exe qwk echomail
processor.
Can they also fix the "-> " quoting style? ;-)
Can they also fix the "-> " quoting style? ;-)
why. its been that way since wildcat 2.xx
Can they also fix the "-> " quoting style? ;-)
why. its been that way since wildcat 2.xx
Because it's always been done wrong, doesn't make it right! ;-)
It doesn't follow the accepted and documented standard: http://ftsc.org/docs/fsc-0032.001
So other editors don't recognise this as a quoted line, so subsequent quotes become a mess as shown above...
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Can they also fix the "-> " quoting style? ;-)
I think I could fix that directly, if I wanted to. I just need to ask if its in the editor WCC code anywhere.
I brought this up with hector and he is going to see if he can work a
fix for this into the .2 alpha cycle :)
Can they also fix the "-> " quoting style? ;-)
why. its been that way since wildcat 2.xx
So other editors don't recognise this as a quoted line, so
subsequent quotes become a mess as shown above...
Because it's always been done wrong, doesn't make it right! ;-)
It doesn't follow the accepted and documented standard: http://ftsc.org/docs/fsc-0032.001
So other editors don't recognise this as a quoted line, so subsequent quotes
become a mess as shown above...
going to see if he can work aI brought this up with hector and he is
get it figured out and fixed forfix for this into the .2 alpha cycle :)
Excellent news. Hope they are able to
you.
Mike
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Can they also fix the "-> " quoting style? ;-)
why. its been that way since wildcat 2.xx
So other editors don't recognise this as a quoted line, so
subsequent quotes become a mess as shown above...
It is not coming across as a mess here?
abcde fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz abcde fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz abcde fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz
abcde fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz abcde fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz abcdefghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz
abcde fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz abcde fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz abcdefghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz
wxyz abcde -> RW> fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyzabcde fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz abcde fghij klmnop qrstuv
Because it's always been done wrong, doesn't make it right! ;-)
It doesn't follow the accepted and documented standard: http://ftsc.org/docs/fsc-0032.001
So other editors don't recognise this as a quoted line, so subsequentquotes -> become a mess as shown above...
other standards have been updated, why can't this one.
But to keep you happy, I've reported this to Santronics.
wxyz abcde -> RW> fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyzabcde fghij klmnop qrstuv wxyz abcde fghij klmnop qrstuv
Etc... It's no longer clear who said what.
Can they also fix the "-> " quoting style? ;-)
It doesn't follow the accepted and documented standard: http://ftsc.org/docs/fsc-0032.001
So other editors don't recognise this as a quoted line, sosubsequent quotes -> become a mess as shown above...
other standards have been updated, why can't this one. And as far as
I can tell you seem to be the only one PMSing about it. But to keep
you happy, I've reported this to Santronics. And it's off that
PCBoard used a similar quoting style and life went on.
--- GTMail 1.26moetiki.ddns.net:27
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if they fix it, they fix it. Right now,
something that minor is the least of their
worries. Right now they are more focused on
getting their front end mailer updated with
binkp as their paying customers
(including me) have been needing for years --
proper binkp support in Platinum Xpress. you
know the saying "Money talks."
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