• Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Fri Nov 7 11:31:18 2025
    OT from the original post but this is actually pretty easy with a shell scrit and ncftp. I log onto my BBS to get the QWK packet, but almost always upload the REP using a script. Once it is set up, it is easy
    and a lot faster.

    Yeah, after reading yours and a couple other responses, I can see this
    being a good thing, didn't know that could be done.

    Mind sharing a look at the script? (assuming Linux). Thanks.

    Sure. It changes to the "DOS drive" that Multimail/SLMR would have
    accessed the QWK packets in, tests for whether or not the packet name got written out in all CAPS or all lower case, and acts accordingly.

    NOTE that the lines that start with a '+' are line wrapped!

    #!/bin/bash
    cd /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231
    test -e /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/CAPCITY2.REP
    if (( $? == 0 )) ;
    then
    ncftpput -u "Dumas Walker" -p 448fmr -DD -E -d stdout
    + capitolcityonline.net / /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/CAPCITY2.REP
    fi
    test -e /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/capcity2.rep
    if (( $? == 0 )) ;
    then
    ncftpput -u "Dumas Walker" -p 448fmr -DD -E -d stdout
    + capitolcityonline.net / /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/capcity2.rep
    fi
    cd ~
    #
    ##END


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Fri Nov 7 13:15:34 2025
    Yeah, after reading yours and a couple other responses, I can see this
    being a good thing, didn't know that could be done.

    Mind sharing a look at the script? (assuming Linux). Thanks.

    P.S. I know you mentioned you don't have ftp open publicly, so in that
    script I shared you can also put your own local IPA in there in place of
    the DNS hostname and it will accomplish the same thing -- so long as you at least have your ftp server turned on, that is. ;)


    * SLMR 2.1a * Mistress - something between a mister and a mattress.
    ---
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Dumas Walker on Fri Nov 7 15:28:45 2025
    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Fri Nov 07 2025 11:31 am

    Sure. It changes to the "DOS drive" that Multimail/SLMR would have

    Um... you may want to change your password now?
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Gamgee on Fri Nov 7 17:36:12 2025
    Hey Gamgee!

    On Thu, 06 Nov 2025 22:09:38 -0600, you wrote:

    I am now seeing the value of this method...

    Would you mind sharing the scripts? (don't need the MultiMail one).

    Sure thing. As long as your on a personal computer, and don't share it with others:

    getpkt:

    #!/bin/bash

    cd /home/user/mmail/down
    wget --ftp-user=<username> --ftp-password=<password> ftp://<yourBBSaddress>/<BBSID>.qwk

    cd /home/user/mmail

    putpkt:

    #!/bin/bash

    cd /home/user/mmail/up

    ftp -nv <<EOF
    open <yourBBSaddress>
    user <username> <password>
    bin
    put <BBSID>.rep
    quit
    EOF

    rm <BBSID>.rep

    cd /home/user/mmail

    Technically you could use the FTP method for both transfers (using 'get' instead of put), but I did the script with 'wget' first, and soon after realized 'wput' was a thing at some point, but isn't maintained anymore and isn't in my distro's repositories.

    Change your paths to match your system, fill in your authentication information, make them executable, and you're off to the races!

    FYI, I don't remove the QWK packet, because I can do that in Multimail once I'm done reading/replying. But I do remove the .REP packet after I send it, otherwise the next time I run that script it'll send it again, probably causing dupes. Unless there's some fancy numbering of .REP packets Multimail does that I don't yet know about (I didn't read the docs, I just figured MM out by mashing buttons, lol).

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Fri Nov 7 17:51:18 2025
    Hey Dumas!

    On Fri, 07 Nov 2025 11:31:18 -0500, you wrote:

    NOTE that the lines that start with a '+' are line wrapped!

    ..and completely disregard the password, too! :D

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Fri Nov 7 21:15:52 2025
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    OT from the original post but this is actually pretty easy with a shell scrit and ncftp. I log onto my BBS to get the QWK packet, but almost always upload the REP using a script. Once it is set up, it is easy and a lot faster.

    Yeah, after reading yours and a couple other responses, I can see this
    being a good thing, didn't know that could be done.

    Mind sharing a look at the script? (assuming Linux). Thanks.

    Sure. It changes to the "DOS drive" that Multimail/SLMR would have accessed the QWK packets in, tests for whether or not the packet name
    got written out in all CAPS or all lower case, and acts accordingly.

    NOTE that the lines that start with a '+' are line wrapped!

    #!/bin/bash
    cd /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231
    test -e /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/CAPCITY2.REP
    if (( $? == 0 )) ;
    then
    ncftpput -u "Dumas Walker" -p 448fmr -DD -E -d stdout
    + capitolcityonline.net / /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/CAPCITY2.REP
    fi
    test -e /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/capcity2.rep
    if (( $? == 0 )) ;
    then
    ncftpput -u "Dumas Walker" -p 448fmr -DD -E -d stdout
    + capitolcityonline.net / /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/capcity2.rep
    fi
    cd ~
    #
    ##END

    Very cool, and makes sense to me. I'll likely give this a try soon.
    Thanks for the explanation/example!



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Accession on Fri Nov 7 21:15:52 2025
    Accession wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I am now seeing the value of this method...
    Would you mind sharing the scripts? (don't need the MultiMail one).

    Sure thing. As long as your on a personal computer, and don't share it with others:

    getpkt:

    #!/bin/bash

    cd /home/user/mmail/down
    wget --ftp-user=<username> --ftp-password=<password> ftp://<yourBBSaddress>/<BBSID>.qwk

    cd /home/user/mmail

    putpkt:

    #!/bin/bash

    cd /home/user/mmail/up

    ftp -nv <<EOF
    open <yourBBSaddress>
    user <username> <password>
    bin
    put <BBSID>.rep
    quit
    EOF

    rm <BBSID>.rep

    cd /home/user/mmail

    Technically you could use the FTP method for both transfers (using
    'get' instead of put), but I did the script with 'wget' first, and soon after realized 'wput' was a thing at some point, but isn't maintained anymore and isn't in my distro's repositories.

    Ack.

    Change your paths to match your system, fill in your authentication information, make them executable, and you're off to the races!

    Yes, understood. The "put" direction makes good sense to me. I have a question about the "get" side though - What causes the BBS to know to
    pack up all the new messages into a QWK packet though? Does just the
    act of requesting <BBSID>.qwk cause that to happen? I was thinking I'd
    have to somehow "tell" the BBS to create the new QWK packet, and *then*
    grab it with wget/ftp.

    FYI, I don't remove the QWK packet, because I can do that in Multimail once I'm done reading/replying. But I do remove the .REP packet after I send it, otherwise the next time I run that script it'll send it again, probably causing dupes. Unless there's some fancy numbering of .REP packets Multimail does that I don't yet know about (I didn't read the docs, I just figured MM out by mashing buttons, lol).

    Understood, and I use MM that way too, just deleting the QWK packet as
    I"m exiting MM after reading/replying.

    Regards,
    Nick

    Appreciate you taking the time to send/explain this! Thanks.

    Dan




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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to ALL on Fri Nov 7 21:45:50 2025
    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Digital Man to Dumas Walker on Fri Nov 07 2025 03:28 pm


    Sure. It changes to the "DOS drive" that Multimail/SLMR would have

    Um... you may want to change your password now?



    here's the script i would use to just use windows cli ftp.exe

    ftpul.bat
    --start--
    @echo off

    c:
    cd\

    ftp.exe -s:c:\ftpul.ftp

    ftpul.ftp
    --start--
    open bbsdev.synchro.net
    deuce
    bananarape
    binary
    prompt
    cd /backups

    lcd c:\files
    mput *.*
    quit

    --end--

    i wish a lot more sysops would upload their backups to the cloud or offsite. scripts like these make it easy.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Fri Nov 7 21:47:26 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Fri Nov 07 2025 05:51 pm


    NOTE that the lines that start with a '+' are line wrapped!

    ..and completely disregard the password, too! :D

    Regards, Nick

    too bad he didnt post the system pass, i could have fixed some stuff.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Gamgee on Fri Nov 7 19:57:30 2025
    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Gamgee to Accession on Fri Nov 07 2025 09:15 pm

    Yes, understood. The "put" direction makes good sense to me. I have a question about the "get" side though - What causes the BBS to know to
    pack up all the new messages into a QWK packet though? Does just the
    act of requesting <BBSID>.qwk cause that to happen?

    Yes, correct.

    I was thinking I'd
    have to somehow "tell" the BBS to create the new QWK packet, and *then*
    grab it with wget/ftp.

    No, it happens on demand. The *.qwk file that appears in the FTP directory listing is just a virtual file. A "get" (RETR) of the file actually signals the sbbs event thread to create the packet, on demand, so there is a bit of delay before the file transfer actually starts (which is fine).
    --
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Gamgee on Sat Nov 8 07:15:56 2025
    Hey Gamgee!

    On Fri, 07 Nov 2025 21:15:52 -0600, you wrote:

    Yes, understood. The "put" direction makes good sense to me. I have a question about the "get" side though - What causes the BBS to know to
    pack up all the new messages into a QWK packet though? Does just the
    act of requesting <BBSID>.qwk cause that to happen? I was thinking I'd
    have to somehow "tell" the BBS to create the new QWK packet, and *then*
    grab it with wget/ftp.

    I think either when you connect or when there is a new message(s), Synchronet creates the QWK packet and puts it in that location automatically. I'm not sure on exactly how it works, but it's there every time I grab it, and it's an updated packet each time.

    Rob would have to explain that better, but I'll just call it 'magic'. :)

    Appreciate you taking the time to send/explain this! Thanks.

    Of course!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Digital Man on Sat Nov 8 07:20:04 2025
    Hey Digital!

    On Fri, 07 Nov 2025 19:57:30 -0800, you wrote:

    No, it happens on demand. The *.qwk file that appears in the FTP
    directory listing is just a virtual file. A "get" (RETR) of the file actually signals the sbbs event thread to create the packet, on demand,
    so there is a bit of delay before the file transfer actually starts
    (which is fine).

    See, Gamgee? Magic! :)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
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  • From Dan Clough@VERT to Accession on Sat Nov 8 08:14:09 2025
    Accession wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Yes, understood. The "put" direction makes good sense to me. I have a question about the "get" side though - What causes the BBS to know to
    pack up all the new messages into a QWK packet though? Does just the
    act of requesting <BBSID>.qwk cause that to happen? I was thinking I'd
    have to somehow "tell" the BBS to create the new QWK packet, and *then*
    grab it with wget/ftp.

    I think either when you connect or when there is a new message(s), Synchronet creates the QWK packet and puts it in that location automatically. I'm not sure on exactly how it works, but it's there
    every time I grab it, and it's an updated packet each time.

    Okay, cool.

    Rob would have to explain that better, but I'll just call it 'magic'.
    :)

    He did explain it! Thank you again.




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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Digital Man on Sat Nov 8 08:14:09 2025
    Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Gamgee to Accession on Fri Nov 07 2025 09:15 pm

    Yes, understood. The "put" direction makes good sense to me. I have a question about the "get" side though - What causes the BBS to know to
    pack up all the new messages into a QWK packet though? Does just the
    act of requesting <BBSID>.qwk cause that to happen?

    Yes, correct.

    I was thinking I'd
    have to somehow "tell" the BBS to create the new QWK packet, and *then*
    grab it with wget/ftp.

    No, it happens on demand. The *.qwk file that appears in the FTP
    directory listing is just a virtual file. A "get" (RETR) of the file actually signals the sbbs event thread to create the packet, on demand,
    so there is a bit of delay before the file transfer actually starts
    (which is fine).

    Perfect. Thank you for that explanation, Digital Man!




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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ACCESSION on Sat Nov 8 10:41:08 2025
    On Fri, 07 Nov 2025 11:31:18 -0500, you wrote:

    NOTE that the lines that start with a '+' are line wrapped!

    ..and completely disregard the password, too! :D

    Dammit, I knew I missed something! :O


    * SLMR 2.1a * Okay, I pulled the pin. Now what? Where are you going?
    ---
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Nov 8 10:41:08 2025
    NOTE that the lines that start with a '+' are line wrapped!

    ..and completely disregard the password, too! :D

    Regards, Nick

    too bad he didnt post the system pass, i could have fixed some stuff.

    Just because *you* don't like it doesn't make it broken.


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    ---
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Sat Nov 8 19:17:47 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Accession to Digital Man on Sat Nov 08 2025 07:20 am


    See, Gamgee? Magic! :)

    Regards, Nick


    who's gamgee?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Nov 8 19:20:13 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Nov 08 2025 10:41 am

    Regards, Nick

    too bad he didnt post the system pass, i could have fixed some stuff.

    Just because *you* don't like it doesn't make it broken.



    yeah ooookay. i just dont like broken things.
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLTBBS to Gamgee on Sat Nov 8 20:02:08 2025
    Not sure how that's any easier than logging in with Syncterm
    and just getting the QWK packet the normal way, and then
    repeating for the .REP. Seems harder, actually.

    That's what I'm doing...and I prefer doing my messages this way.

    It's pretty handy here, I don't know if a lot of sysops open FTP on
    their firewalls though.

    I have the port open for it (for downloads), but one has to be a
    verified user in good standing to upload. However, if I see someone
    slamming the ports, I'll block the IP address.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLTBBS to Dumas Walker on Sat Nov 8 20:02:08 2025
    Sure. It changes to the "DOS drive" that Multimail/SLMR would
    have accessed the QWK packets in, tests for whether or not the
    packet name got written out in all CAPS or all lower case, and
    acts accordingly.

    NOTE that the lines that start with a '+' are line wrapped!

    #!/bin/bash
    cd /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231
    test -e /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/CAPCITY2.REP
    if (( $? == 0 )) ;
    then
    ncftpput -u "Dumas Walker" -p 448fmr -DD -E -d stdout
    + capitolcityonline.net / /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/CAPCITY2.REP
    fi
    test -e /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/capcity2.rep
    if (( $? == 0 )) ;
    then
    ncftpput -u "Dumas Walker" -p 448fmr -DD -E -d stdout
    + capitolcityonline.net / /opt/DRIVE_E/KERM231/capcity2.rep
    fi
    cd ~
    #
    ##END

    I thought ears and my QWK mail packet were burning. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Nov 9 10:44:05 2025
    Regards, Nick

    too bad he didnt post the system pass, i could have fixed some stuff.

    Just because *you* don't like it doesn't make it broken.

    yeah ooookay. i just dont like broken things.

    As I said, just because you don't like it doesn't make it broken.

    As you are the only one whose ever complained, I would suggest the problem
    is elsewhere -- and very much not mine.

    OTOH, I originally had Synchronet set up so that all the message areas were grouped by network -- which is how you like it -- and users (plural) did complain because they couldn't find the "echoes about (subject)" that they
    were used to participating in on the predecessor BBS.

    When a user isn't either pissed at the network admins, or banned by then,
    which networks you want/need to avoid isn't an issue.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 9 19:00:25 2025
    Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Nov 09 2025 10:44 am


    As I said, just because you don't like it doesn't make it broken.

    As you are the only one whose ever complained, I would suggest the
    problem is elsewhere -- and very much not mine.

    i'm the only one that cares enough to say something.
    ***you yourself asked for help with your permission issues.

    OTOH, I originally had Synchronet set up so that all the message
    areas were grouped by network -- which is how you like it -- and
    users (plural) did complain because they couldn't find the "echoes

    it's not how i like it; it's just the normal way of doing things. especially when you have a lot of msg networks. you made a mess out of it.

    When a user isn't either pissed at the network admins, or banned by
    then, which networks you want/need to avoid isn't an issue.

    what network am i banned from? you mean 'micronet'? the network i was told i was banned from after i stopped using it for 8 months? that's just
    sean being sean. i dont care, i don't really visit bbses or even post on msg networks that much.

    Sean gets his feelings hurt when people quit his
    network. The guy can't even run it himself(75% of the time it has been entirely operated by other people because of his unstable life).

    The funny thing is he brags about running things at home and says i don't
    know anything because i now run everything on rented servers. i guess he imagines it's all managed by the company? :D

    There's another guy in here that's posting now that he's pissed about dropping micronet. Anyways, he's a loser parasite, i don't know why i'm even talking about him other than your mud slinging.

    i dont care what you do with your msg subs. as you can see i dont visit your bbs, do i? i'm was just joking that it was setup wrong, which it is. your permissions were all wrong for one thing.

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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 9 21:38:00 2025
    On 09 Nov 2025, Dumas Walker said the following...

    OTOH, I originally had Synchronet set up so that all the message areas were grouped by network -- which is how you like it -- and users
    (plural) did complain because they couldn't find the "echoes about (subject)" that they were used to participating in on the predecessor
    BBS.

    can message areas not be grouped in more than one way? i don't recall. perhaps in a(n unpleasant) way where two areas listed in two groups use the same files?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32)
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to fusion on Sun Nov 9 21:41:14 2025
    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 09 2025 09:38 pm

    predecessor BBS.

    can message areas not be grouped in more than one way? i don't
    recall. perhaps in a(n unpleasant) way where two areas listed in two
    groups use the same files?

    There's probably 100 ways to do it if you are creative and we have
    javascript at our disposal.

    You could create a regular area where it has the 50 msg nets the sysop would carry, and the msg subs would be in there. then you could create a more simple area using the same data codes. you can cut and paste in scfg or you can rig something up since synchronet uses .ini files now.

    you could use flags to have only one to show to a user. you could script it so it asks the user which style they prefer.

    that's the easiest way to do it (for me).

    i think it's weird to have msg subs out of their context, especially how fidonet and fxnet and other nets have different rules and operators.

    I can't believe a user would ask for something like this. i've never seen someone ask for such a messy system. i think it's just a bad idea the sysop had and he stuck with it.

    I understand having tons of msg networks, file areas, games can be a bit
    much for users. that's why you either dont do it or you do little tricks to segregate them. there's a lot of visual tricks to segregate msg and file
    areas with synchronet, for example.

    nobody likes a facefull of data with multiple pages. so i think it's best
    for for the sysops to steer away from that. but it's their systems. they
    can be THAT sysop and have the 1000 msg nets and 1000 doorgames and have an inactive system.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to fusion on Mon Nov 10 09:36:39 2025
    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 09 2025 09:38 pm

    can message areas not be grouped in more than one way? i don't recall. perhaps in a(n unpleasant) way where two areas listed in two groups use the same files?

    They actually can be, by having a sub-board with the same internal code in more than one message group. This means you can't use the "internal code prefix" feature, but it is doable. Some oddity with message scan config / pointers might occur also, I don't recall.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to fusion on Mon Nov 10 09:05:13 2025
    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 09 2025 21:38:00

    can message areas not be grouped in more than one way? i don't recall. perha > in a(n unpleasant) way where two areas listed in two groups use the same fil
    That would certainly be unpleasant. ;)
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Digital Man on Tue Nov 11 08:37:11 2025
    Re: Re: NNTP(S) via Thunderbi
    By: Digital Man to fusion on Mon Nov 10 2025 09:36:39

    can message areas not be grouped in more than one way? i don't recall. perhaps in a(n unpleasant) way where two areas listed in two groups use t > > same files?

    They actually can be, by having a sub-board with the same internal code in m > than one message group. This means you can't use the "internal code prefix"
    feature, but it is doable. Some oddity with message scan config / pointers might occur also, I don't recall.

    FWIW, I did try that several years ago and it did cause something "odd" to happen. I don't remember what, but it was enough to make me stop doing so. This would have been well over 10 years ago, IIRC.
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