• Re: For the Californians

    From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Mon Nov 10 06:54:05 2025
    Re: Re: For the Californians
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Nov 02 2025 10:11 am

    I don't question that the entire government is corrupt, but having one person in charge of everything, including deciding who the "bad ones" are, is dangerous and wrong. Other countries that tried that... Nazi Germany, Stalinist USSR, several Latin American dictatorships... fail pretty quick. None of them managed to last ~250 years like our country.


    I agree having a single person in charge is most often awful than good. Spanish Fascism was benign compared to most Fascism in the world at the time and it still sucked big time until the 60s - afterwards it improved because it tried to act less as a Fascism.

    Wanting to destroy his enemies is also not a good long-run trait, especially ifan "enemy" is someone who simply disagrees with you on a single policy decision. Being surrounded by "yes-men" who are either opportunists or just scared of you leads to more harm than good.

    The problem these days is that there is a big chunk of the opposing side that literally wants YOU to die if you are not 100% on their side. It is fucking crazy, and I am not dramatizing.

    I mean, I ran into a video of somebody criticising a Youtuber for displaying conservative traits. So far, so good. You run down the comments in the video and everybody is calling the Youtuber Nazi and Fascist and whatever. ANd, within this context, you find beautiful pearls such as "People who say violence is not the answer always forgets what it took to get rid of Nazies in WWII" and the like. You get the picture.

    I go check some videos of the "Nazi" Youtuber. She is just a gal who talks about games and movies and prefers asian games over American ones because American ones don't foster traditional values and aesthetics anymore. Bonus points because she is a Christian, that makes her extra Nazi and marks her for priority termination.

    So yeah, if you don't like American games nowadays you are a Nazi and have to be killed.

    If I saw this sort of movement in my country I would AUTOMATICALLY switch to voting for the most sadistic genocidal bullshit nazi motherfucker who promised to destroy this people, because at certain point it is a matter of self-preservation. In that regard I would consider a politician pledged to defend my demographic group via agressive means a *necessity*.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to MRO on Mon Nov 10 07:02:20 2025
    Re: Re: For the Californians
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Nov 02 2025 03:38 pm


    you dont know because it has never truly been done.
    there hasnt been a good guy in charge of everything and everybody.


    Tyrannical governments in many shapes and forms have existed since ancient times. Also, the definition of a "good guy" is a bit flexible.

    I personally think General Francisco Franco saw himself as a Patriot and a "good guy", and his regime was a bit of a disaster until very late stages... it is very clear to me he purposedly eased the transition back to Democracy on purpose because Fascism would not be sustainable after he was gone. This claim is a bit controversial, but you get the picture.

    You go back in time, you can find lots of Absolute Monarchs who tried their best as opposed to Absolute Monarchs whose goal was to milk as much value from vassals as possible.

    The main problem with benevolent dictatorships is they are always personalist in nature, so even if the dictator is benevolent (which is usually not the case) and competent (same), once he is gone the system crashes hard for a reason or another. Meanwhile, non benevolent dictatorships are extremely stable and hard to rid of because when Fidel Castro dies, there is another Castro in line to replace him.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to ARELOR on Tue Nov 11 09:37:50 2025
    I don't question that the entire government is corrupt, but having one
    person in charge of everything, including deciding who the "bad ones" are, >> is dangerous and wrong. Other countries that tried that... Nazi Germany,
    Stalinist USSR, several Latin American dictatorships... fail pretty quick. >> None of them managed to last ~250 years like our country.

    I agree having a single person in charge is most often awful than good. Spanis
    Fascism was benign compared to most Fascism in the world at the time and it still sucked big time until the 60s - afterwards it improved because it tried to act less as a Fascism.

    Yes, Spain is a very good example.

    Wanting to destroy his enemies is also not a good long-run trait, especially >> ifan "enemy" is someone who simply disagrees with you on a single policy
    decision. Being surrounded by "yes-men" who are either opportunists or just >> scared of you leads to more harm than good.

    The problem these days is that there is a big chunk of the opposing side that literally wants YOU to die if you are not 100% on their side. It is fucking crazy, and I am not dramatizing.

    I am aware and agree you are not dramatizing. My issue is not with his
    dislike of those people, and those people now exist on both sides.

    My issue is as stated above... if you disagree on a single policy decision,
    you could be labeled as "the enemy." So currently our leader is surrounded
    by "yes-people" and no one around to check bad ideas.

    I mean, I ran into a video of somebody criticising a Youtuber for displaying conservative traits. So far, so good. You run down the comments in the video and everybody is calling the Youtuber Nazi and Fascist and whatever. ANd, within this context, you find beautiful pearls such as "People who say violenc
    is not the answer always forgets what it took to get rid of Nazies in WWII" an
    the like. You get the picture.

    I go check some videos of the "Nazi" Youtuber. She is just a gal who talks about games and movies and prefers asian games over American ones because American ones don't foster traditional values and aesthetics anymore. Bonus points because she is a Christian, that makes her extra Nazi and marks her for
    priority termination.

    It is sad that there is a decent sized segment of the population that
    equates Christian with "Nazi" and has no clue what a "Nazi" really was.
    OTOH, I also wonder how many of those commenters are real people in the US,
    and how many are fake accounts intentionally trying to stir the US pot from abroad.

    If I saw this sort of movement in my country I would AUTOMATICALLY switch to voting for the most sadistic genocidal bullshit nazi motherfucker who promised
    to destroy this people, because at certain point it is a matter of self-preservation.

    I would not, but I also would not be drawn to voting for the side that
    fosters the BS described above. Both sides have got so deep into the BS I cannot support either of them.


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