• Re: Our President doesn't

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMYLOGAN on Sun Jan 25 18:46:28 2026
    I partially agree, although it could be argued that if the persons who later broke into the Capitol hadn't had their "logistics and travel" to the rally paid, they wouldn't have been in DC at all.

    Very true. But I don't think that equals causation.

    You cannot break in if you cannot get there. ;)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMYLOGAN on Sun Jan 25 18:46:28 2026
    That inconsistency was reinforced when high-profile politicians publicly supported bail or legal defense funds for people arrested during the 2020 riots.
    Even if the stated intent was due process, the public signal was that certain kinds of political violence would be treated more leniently.

    That's a serious failure, and it understandably fed cynicism and mistrust -- worse yet, it widened the already fractured culture.

    Agreed. It did nothing to narrow the divide.

    Where I'm cautious is drawing a straight line from that failure to responsibility for later actions. I think it helps explain confusion and misperception, but it still does not justify or excuse individual choices.

    I also agree. You have to take responsibility and make proper choices
    despite the poor examples those in charge might be setting regarding consequences of your actions.

    If we are to be consistent, the standard has to be the same across the board: individual accountability; equal application of the law; and zero tolerance for political violenceƒ€”no carve-outs, no exceptions.

    Agreed 100%. Speaking of individual accountability...

    I feel badly for the persons who have been killed in MN and their families.
    I do question whether or not ICE acted responsibly. That said, I am also
    smart enough to see that those in charge are going to back the actions of
    ICE over the actions of those confronting them, so it is up to the
    individual to be accountable for their own safety.

    You have to have your own responsibility in mind and should not be
    confronting, blocking, or following around federal agents, no matter who
    the President is. If you want to protest, do it at the state capitol, local courthouse, federal building, or some other public space... *NOT* the area where ICE is located.

    Otherwise, you are getting close to "suicide by cop" territory.

    I am really confused... the left has claimed that ICE are nothing but a
    bunch of Jan 6'ers that Trump pardoned and gave guns, so why would those on
    the left want to be anywhere *near* them? I sure don't want to be anywhere near them if I can help it.

    They would probably be better off finding a charity that helps immigrants
    with their legal processes and volunteering their time, or mobilizing to
    find some other way to assist without confronting federal agents.

    Mike

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